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Why are we not given up to date crime stats ?
The police in South Africa want the public to help them combat crime but won't publish up to date figures.

We get figures once a year, which is bull---- the figures could be doctored to make them look better than they are
we will never know.

Just think how we could assist the police if crime stats where published on the internet as they happen.

We would know what is going on in our own area, and would know what to look out for.
Pictures or descriptions of suspects could be published
on the internet, they are published on the notice boards in the police stations, so it would not  be an infringement of the criminals rights.
This could all happen in real time and could be done by members of the public who could maintain the website.

Are the Police in South Africa hiding the true crime figures?
If so  is this to make the rest of the world think its safe to come to South Africa in 2010 for the Soccer World Cup.
What other motives could they have?
People who live in South Africa already know that the Crime is high.
If its true that certain police stations in South Africa have been distorting crime figures what would be their motives?
Who is behind  distorting the Crime Figures?
Are the police stations acting on their own or is someone in government issuing the orders?
Would be nice to Know

Sorry about the lack of blogs for a while, I have been out of town,  but  know I'm back with a vengeance.

When Zuma goes on trial in August he is likely to say that he cannot have a fair trial because he has been tried by the media already, if that fails he is going to say that the trial has dragged on to long.
What he won't say is that he has been in the media through his own doing by making a fool of himself,  when he gets in front of a camera.
Could you imagine the Prime-Minister of Great Britain, or the President of the USA, jumping about on a stage in front of the press and thousands of people singing songs about (pass me my machine gun.)

The press are going to be there at every opportunity to record the next stupid thing he does, they make money out of his antics.

If he does get a permanent  stay of prosecution, will every prisoner waiting trial in South Africa who has had to wait for a long period to go to trial or has had a lot of publicity, be granted a permanent stay of prosecution?

What are the benchmarks how long must you be waiting prosecution?  how many times must  you get into the press and for what reasons before you are granted a stay of prosecution?
If I was in jail or waiting trial, I would be asking my attorney to find out.
In South Africa we are supposed to be equal before the law.

In fact if he gets a stay of prosecution because he has had to wait to long for his trial, all other waiting trail prisoners in South Africa, who have been waiting trial for the same period, should automatically be released by default.

The reason Zuma's trial date has taken so long is his own doing, going to every court in the land trying to get the case thrown  out.

Who Do We Hold Accountable

November 25th, 2007 by Crime Fighter

FIFA secretary-general Jerome Valcke is worried about the Crime situation in South Africa during the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

November 24th, 2007 by Crime Fighter

Zuma Wants To Get Tough on Criminals

November 24th, 2007 by Crime Fighter

This email that was sent to me what do you think?

After I was a victim of crime in 2000, I attended many crime
discussions, brain storming and therapy sessions. At each of these discussions the question came up on how to tackle the symptoms of crime.

The only question never raised was:

Question: “What is the influence of crime on the S.A. Govt?”

Answer: Crime generates millions and millions of Rand’s for the S.A. Govt

Here are the facts:

Example 1:

Take just one million home owners in Gauteng who pay for “armed crime reaction” (not crime prevention) where private security companies react AFTER the crime has taken place - no wonder they never make any arrests!
This service costs on average R250 p.m. Therefore 1 000,000 x R240.00 X 12 months x 14% VAT, generates R403 million in tax revenue for the S.A. Govt!

Example 2:

A car thief steals a R500,000 car and receives between R10,000 and
R30,000 for his deed.

The car owner is paid out by insurance and then purchases another
similar vehicle, on which he pays 14% VAT of approx R70,000 as a direct result of crime.

Who profited the most? The thief or the S.A.Govt?

We must begin with a mechanism whereby the S.A. Govt is forced to reconsider this unconstitutional and immoral practice of profiting from
crime!

All South Africans should demand that all payments related to protection of life and property should be VAT free and Tax deductible!

This principle should also apply to replacement of stolen property as well as estate duty. If a person dies as a result of crime we should also demand that estate duty not be paid. How much do you think the S.A. Govt has made out of estate duty just from the murders of 1300 South African
farmers?

The S.A. Govt likes to compare us to overseas. Well overseas your safety and security is covered by your income tax and is tax deductible!
It is time that South Africans stood together and made the Govt and public aware of the

Govt’s “income” from crime. In the meantime crime is the goose that lays the golden egg

Is it also not unreasonable to expect victims of violence and hijackings to pay their own medical costs? The Govt should pay for these expenses as well as family counselling for victims!
(After all, they pay the perpetrators’ hospital expenses!)

Come on South Africa, ask the right questions and demand the right
answers!

You could just delete this message or you could help make a difference.
Send this to everyone you know - now!

Lucky Dube South African reggae artist was murdered
on Thursday the 18th of October 2007 in Rosettenville Johannesburg, police say he was gunned down and killed in front of his two children. This type of incident happens every day in South Africa.
Approximately 40 people a day get murdered in South Africa and it hardly makes the news.
Saturday we will watch South Africa play in the final of the rugby World Cup and another 40 people will be murdered
so much for the rainbow nation.
If you are thinking of coming to watch the Soccer World Cup in 2010 make sure the South African Government has attended to the problem of violent crime before you arrive, or bring a body guard with you.

I see on the British T.V. news, that a police officer in Britain is talking about making hard drugs legal, why don't they make harsh prison sentences for people who bring drugs into Britain and the people who sell the drugs on the streets.
What about 25 years for importing Drugs and 15 years for selling drugs, plus the removal and sale of all of that persons assets.
This will help pay for the new prisons that will be required.
If you get found guilty for the second time you spend the rest of your life in prison.
See my Crime Blog for all the answers in combating crime. Crime Blogtoolkit.com

August 22nd, 2007

It has been reported that prisoners in China are made to work for a small remuneration while the are in prison.
Good for the Chinese.
People in prison should be made to work and pay towards the time they spend in there, why should law abiding citizens pay taxes to feed them.
While they are in jail some prisoners are making money out of the proceeds of the crimes they have committed.
They should also be made to pay any losses that the victims may have incurred, any money they make while they are in prison should go to the victims or the victims family.

I would like to appeal to the people or person who have Madeleine to comment on this blog that she is safe,well and in good hands.
This information can then be passed on by me via email to Madeleine's parents, you can do this from an internet cafe so that you cannot be traced.
It would be nice if you could could ask Madeleine something personal like what she got for Christmas last year as this will confirm you have her and she is well.
I would like anyone reading this blog to post the same information on other  blog sites, email and S.M.S messages on cell phones, lets hope that the the person or people that have Madeleine will be kind enough to let Madeleine's parents know that she is O/K.
Do something positive to help Madeleine pass this URL on to your friends and relatives http://crime.blogtoolkit .com

It has been said that the pen is mightier than the sword, if this is the case the Internet has to be mightier than the pen.
With the Internet we can reach millions of people around the world with the press of a button.
Governments must watch out, the public will use the Internet and the Freedom it gives to change their lives.
I suggest that all the people that are feed-up with high crime rates in their Countries make their voice heard by using the Internet to have their say the more noise we all make the sooner changes will take place.

A man held staff hostage at the Pretoria News offices to protest about the high crime rates in South Africa, is this what  we have to do to get noticed?
The man said he had lost his wife and child.

Today the 27th of April is freedom day in South Africa, how can the people be free with such high crime in the country.
True freedom comes when the public can go anywhere at anytime day or night without fear of being mugged, robbed, raped or murdered.
Approx 47 people are murdered every day in South Africa almost half a million burglaries and robberies where reported in 2006 and about 49,000 rapes, included in this figure is about 19,000 child rapes.

It seems that our efforts are having some affect in South Africa the police have a website which is being updated on a regular basis.
Mbeki is talking about crime at most of his meetings, it seems that he has started to take notice of the people that voted for him at the last election.
Unless we see a drastic change in the crime rates before the next election I suggest we vote for a different party to the A.N.C. remember the internet is mightier than the pen.

posted by Roy Potter on Nov 29 11:51 PM | 1 comments

posted by Crime Fighter   Feb 28 4:34 AM | 0 comments

Is crime in South Africa out of control or not?
Mbeki says crime is not out of control.
The public think crime is out of control.
Nqakula, the safety and security minister has reiterated that crime is not out of control.
Former Judge Willem Heath who was appointed by Nelson Mandela to head a Special Investigative unit to investigate corruption says crime is out of control.
Mbeki blames the white South Africans for using high crime  figures falsely, and dishonestly,for racist reasons.
African governments (I presume they are Black not White) have warned South Africa that rampant violent crimes are threatening the stability of democracy.
Kenneth Meshoe ACDP thinks that the high crime figures
could have an effect on South Africa holding the 2010 soccer world cup.
ANC MP Molefi Sefularo says it won't.
Nqalula told parliament that those whingeing about crime should emigrate sounds a bit like Mugabe.

Mbeki who a few weeks ago said that crime is not out of control in South Africa, is now saying that white people are living in fear of blacks and there is a link between racism and the perceptions of crime, what happened to a non racial South Africa?
What as crime got to do with race, all race groups commit crimes the people in South Africa want to know the following, what are the true crime figures? what is the government going to do to reduce crime? when are they going to something positive? when are we going to have a referendum on bringing back the death penalty? keep the public informed we are not children.
It's not out of fear that people are bringing up the subject of Crime, it is because we are fed up and frustrated with children of all races being killed, houses being burgled  cash in transit holdups, robbery, violence, rape, never mind the corruption in government and our president tells us crime is under control, why is he having a 60 to 80 Million Rand wall built around his estate, he is getting more like his friend  in Zim every day.

Crime in South Africa cost R50 billion last year.
According to president Mbeki crime is under control, I wonder what the cost would be If it was out of control.

A six year old girl was found murdered in Majue Maswew township she went missing on Sunday.
Her body was  found in the bush near Brandford in the Free State South Africa.
Mr Mbeki please listen to your voters bring back hanging now
or loose votes at the next election.

Bring back hanging for child molesters and child murders this type of crime is getting out of hand in South Africa another child was found murdered today 13th of March 2007.
Details to follow

Another young girl murdered in Cape Town the body of an 11 year old girl has been found in Cape Town.
She was found at her mothers house in Mitchells Plain
Further details to follow.
When is our government going to wake up and do something about the high crime rates.
Or don't they care about the children that are getting murdered

A 7 year old girl who has been missing since the 18th of Feb 2007 has been found  raped and murdered, in the Pretoria area of South Africa, the body was found on the 5th of March.
A person known to the girl ( she probably trusted him) has admitted he committed the crime's, if he is found guilty he will serve a prison sentence of 25 years maximum (life sentence in South Africa).
Tax payers will foot the bill for his stay in prison, this will probably include the parents of the little girl who has been murdered, so they are indirectly paying to keep this animal alive.
Do you think this is justice ?
There is NO DOUBT that this person is guilty because he has admitted to the crime's, therefore he should be hung good riddance to a piece of rubbish.
What do you think?
President  Mbeki made a statement that crime is under control in South Africa, I hope he took some time out from his travels to attend the funeral of this little girl.
Until we start to get tough with criminals and show them that we will not put up with any nonsense and raping little girls under the age of sixteen will mean a mandatory death sentence, this type of crime will continue to be committed.

Three more people have been shot and killed in Cape Town in the early hours of the morning the men where shot execution  style in the head according to a police spokesperson.

A five year old boy was shot in the head in Cape Town
South Africa.
The boy was  playing on his bed when he was shot in the head in a gang land shooting.
 He is in a critical condition after receiving brain surgery.
What do you think should happen to the animals that did this if this little boy dies?

I was watching Sky news this morning and I saw your insert on thugs and teenage crime.
It seems that teenage crime and violence is a world wide problem, that most governments don't know how to deal with (they have lost their way).
The laws we have in place are probably out of date, we need some inventive thinking on how to deal with the problem of thuggery, anti-social behaver, and teenage crime.
I believe we have a breakdown of discipline in the home from a very early age and the result is a progression from just being naughty to committing more and more serious crimes over a period of many years.
My thoughts on the subject are as follows:
Parents should be responsible for their children's actions until the age of eighteen, this would mean that they would have to pay for any costs incurred by the actions of their children.(removal of graffiti, damage to property, injury to other people, Etc.
Bring back conscription into the army for two years as an option for magistrates to impose on serial offenders.
If a teenager is convicted of any type of anti-social behavior between the ages of thirteen and eighteen on three separate occasions, it should be mandatory that he or she does two years national service in the army starting after their eighteenth birthday.
In all cases they should still be punished at the times the crimes are committed for e.g. if you are caught doing graffiti you should to be made to clean one hundred meters of graffiti under supervision as punishment.
(Cost of the supervision for parents account)
Between the ages of eighteen and twenty one conscription should be at the discretion of the magistrate.
Foreign nationals should be deported at the age of twenty one.
I believe that if these measures where introduced it would be such a deterrent to teenagers that the anti-social crimes would decrease immediately, this would fee up the police to deal with more serious crimes.
Note: The army is good enough for our Royal Family then it's good enough for any other teenager in the U.K.
This initiative would not cause the army to be overwhelmed by teenage criminals, as soon as one or two teenagers get conscripted into the army you will be amazed how the crime levels will drop.

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An incident allegedly  took place at the Blue Route mall
Cape Town on Monday 19th of Feb at Approximately 14.00hrs.
The victim was a lady in her thirty's, a document has been opened with SAPS, this incident took place in the toilets by a man who was wearing a balaclava please be careful when using any public toilets.

President Mbeki (South Africa) is having a wall built around his 8 Kilometer  estate at the cost of 60 to 80 million rands.
The only reason you build a wall is to keep out criminals
Mbeki made a statement a few weeks ago that crime in South Africa was under control, so why his he having this wall built.
The money being spent on this wall could be better spent housing the poor which he keeps talking about.
Who got the contract to build the wall at a price of R7,500 per meter

Have you ever been a witness to a crime?
If you have what was your experience when the case went to court?
These are the things that happened to me in court in South Africa.
I stood in the passage outside of the courtroom waiting for the case to be called for 4 hours, during this time people where smoking cigarettes and dope the smoke of which I had to breath.
I could not leave the passage because the case could have been called in my absents and I would have been in contempt of court.
After 4 hours I was told that one of the suspects did not turn up for trial so the case would be postponed and that I would be given a new date to attend court.
When the new date arrived the same thing happened, this time I only had to put up with the Smoking for 2 hours, the case was postponed again.
The case came up again for the third time, we went into the courtroom after a 2 hour wait in the passage.
The case was postponed again I never heard any more about the case,  I was never called as a witness again for this case, what a waste of my time, money and effort.
If and when a case does go to trial and you have to take the stand, you will be the one that is treated like the criminal.
You will be cross examined, told that you are lying and generally not treated with much respect.
The police and the courts wonder why the public won't come forward as witnesses, after my personal experiences I would it very difficult to witness anything, it's far easier to look the other way.
What are the Police and the Courts going to do about this problem?
What about this for a suggestion? a nice clean waiting room for witnesses no smoking and remote from the suspects with tea, coffee, biscuits and some magazines to read.
Maybe they could even afford  a T.V. to help pass the time
while the case is waiting to be heard.
Then maybe more case's will go to court, and their will be more convictions.

Thabo Mbeki will open parliament today and give us his state of the nation speech.
The majority of the people in South Africa hope he will address the problem of CRIME in the country.
President Mbeki has already made a statement that crime is not out of control in South Africa.

According Thabo Mbeki Crime is under control in South Africa
I am sure the victims of crime would agree with him.
I suppose if you have half a dozen body guards with you day and night crime is not to much of a problem.
HAVE YOUR SAY LETS HAVE YOUR FEELINGS is there a crime problem in South Africa or not? comments please.
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Why do the magistrate's and judge's hand out long prison sentences to criminals?
They know that  the criminals will be released long before the end of  their sentence's.
Criminals should only get a remission of sentence if they work while they are incarcerated and help pay for their keep while they are in prison.
Prison should be a punishment not a place to further your education.
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We live in a country that is supposed to have the best democracy in the world.
When F.N.B. came up with the idea to bring the feelings of the general population about high crime rates in South Africa to the attention of Thabo Mbeki by sending him letters the initiative was stopped.
We don't know why it as been stopped no reason has been given, which leaves us to draw our own conclusions.
You would think the president of a country would be glad to know the feelings of the population.
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Everybody who is serious about combating crime must work together we need to brainstorm new ideas and become inventive in the way we handle crime (Crime, Criminals, Punishment,The Legal System,Justice, Policing) only six items to address.
The greatest tool we have is the Internet once the ball gets rolling even Mbeki won't be able to stop it, the facts will be there for the World  to see.
If you are a law abiding citizen and have been affected by crime in any way, no matter how small, please have your say, let your voice be heard.

How do we stop crime Please lets have you thoughts Roy.
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It's not the policemen on the ground that are the problem its the people who sit behind the desks.
The policemen who are in the field work hard, long hours with
low pay and little thanks for the work they put in.
The people who pull their strings are the cause of all the S---
we must respect the Bobby on the beat

Crime is not just about South Africa Its a world wide problem
lets make 2007 the year we did our bit wherever you live in the world.
Contribute to this site by having your say, if you know about crimes that are about to take place or that have taken place  post the details on this site so that the police can monitor the content and get leads.

Come on all you peace loving people out there give me some stimulation so that I can really get going on this Crime Thing.
I need you behind me so that we can give the criminals,  govenments, courts and our so called police service (I prefer Force) some stick.
Please comment whether you agree with me or not, lets hear from the criminals, ex-criminals, lawyers, police and
politicians.
Lets stir the S--- and see who it falls on.

Criminals are tough the courts treat them like a protected species.
Its time to get tough with these B------- and give them the same sort of treatment that they give out to their victims enough is enough.
No more holidays in prison at the tax payers expense make the B------ pay for their crimes maybe they will tell their buddies that crime does not  pay.

Burglars broke into Johannesburg Police Station in South Africa where they stole liquor, cellphones, sweets and cigarettes.
South Africa is supposed to be hosting the 2010 soccer
world cup in three years time, with thousands of people arriving in South Africa from countries all around the world.
I hope the visitors realize what they are in for, they cannot hope to be protected by the South Africa Police, it would seem that the police cannot look after their own assets.
I hope they have been warned by their governments about the high level of violent crime that takes place in South Africa.

Was Diana Princess of Wales murdered or was her death an accident? what happened to the missing white Fiat Uno? who was driving this car? why where the closed circuit T V camera's not working? or is this a part of the cover up?
Maybe Stevens is part of the cover up?
Sixty miles a hour in a Mercedes-Benz is like walking who are they kidding?
The driver was a professional I don't think that amount of
alcohol would have made much difference to his judgment do you?
How was the speed measured? I would like to know maybe someone can tell me?
Where was the engagement ring immediately after the accident? was Diana wearing the ring or did Dodi have it in his pocket?
Still more questions than answers

New laws soon to be introduced in the UK will ban smoking in all public places and it will be a crime if you do so.
We  had the same laws introduced in South Africa several years ago and after the initial outcry things have settled down.
It is nice being a non smoker to be able to go to a restaurant and have a meal without second hand cigarette smoke.
What do you have to say ?

What do you think about crimes committed against woman and children what punishment do you think criminals should get.
Example what if man rapes a six month old baby because he thinks it will cure him of AIDS and then kills the child.
This is happening in Africa.

Is aids an act of God?
A freak of nature?
Or genocide?

It must be one of the three...
What do you think?
Give us your comments

Saddam Hussein  has been  found guilty  of war crimes ....
Who is guilty for all the deaths happening now?

I would like to have your opinions. I live in South Africa and I am sick and tired of high crime rates,
A lot of the crime is directed against the elderly, woman,  children and people who cannot protect themselves.
I would like you to help me fight crime by sending in blogs of your own experiences on how crime has affected your life.
Wherever you live in the World  now is the time to have your say.
Give your ideas on reducing crime, maybe you could tell us what your government is doing to reduce crime (Bring Back The Death Penalty etc.) then you could direct your friends to this blog and get them to do the same.
If a large amount of people voice their opinions it might just have an effect on our governments to do something, they might even take some of our advice thanks in anticipation Roy Cape Town.
It's the politicians that  make the rules and laws maybe we should not vote for them, at the next election unless we see a significant reduction of the crime in our countries.
I am sure that South Africa is not the only country in the world with high crime rates, I watch Sky News and BBC News on T.V. and it would appear that high crime rates are now the normal trait around the world.
It is obvious that the governments concerned have lost their way and don't know how to deal with the high crime rates.
They talk about rehabilitation and human rights.
The criminals have more rights than the victims what happened to good old punishment? where prison was a place you would not want to be sent to.
I believe Prisoners should be given basic meals like porridge for breakfast (every day) The food should be cheap, bland and boring the same menu day after day.
I would recommend this sort of menu:
Breakfast  (Porridge with Water)
Lunch (Stew small amount of Meat with lots of Cabbage, Potatoes and Brown Unwashed Rice with Water)
Supper Soup and Bread with Water
Prisoners only need water to sustain life why supply them with soft drinks, tea,coffee etc.
In fact this diet is very healthy and very similar to the food I choose to eat myself.
What about the victims? when the prisoners are released they can start new lives.
 Victims of of serious crimes can be scared for life, I believe that criminals should be made to pay compensation to their  victims, even if they have to pay the rest of their lives.
They should also pay for their time in prison, this could be done by them volunteering to do some sort of work while they are incarcerated.
 For example a school teacher serving time could teach other prisoners, or an artisan toolmaker could make things in metal, to sell and teach the other prisoners to do the same.
This could be considered good behavior and linked to a reduction in sentence.
Prisoners should be moved to a prison at least a hundred miles from the town where live, this would make it difficult for them to intimidate the prison warders, it will also make it difficult to get visitors which is also a form of punishment.
Lets have some of your ideas

Please guys send your comments we need to get some input on your thoughts,  what about this to start with bring back conscription into the army for hooligan crime.
Maybe it could be structured in the following way, if you are between the ages of 13 years and 18 years old, male or female and you get convicted of anti-social crimes three times during that period, you have to do two years national service after your eighteenth birthday.
 Maybe the thugs will think twice about doing graffiti, getting drunk in public, etc